Monday, August 07, 2006
Quote of the day by Molly Ivans...
From her piece linked above about the Bush Cartel, the press, and other stuff:
"Meanwhile, I have yet another complaint to lodgeI couldn't agree more Molly! I'm not so sure, however, that he's only necked with female foreign leaders. He has gazed lovingly into the eyes of Putin and saw his soul, so there is a change when those two vanished behind closed doors....kissing was going on!
against George W. Bush. "The man is a moron!" is not political debate. Not
helpful. Not even prudent, as his old man would say. But that is precisely what
he leaves us saying: "But, he is a complete moron." Someone needs to pick up
this discussion and point out that at least he's our moron and say something
encouraging like someday maybe he'll learn to pronounce nuclear. We can count on him not to change his mind about stem cell research no matter what people learn. And, the only foreign leader he's necked with is female."
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Bush got better grades than Kerry and Gore, and assembled a better team than Clinton did.
So apples to apples, I don't think a competition for IQ would be won hands down by democrats. Bush certainly held his own at the debates with Gore and Kerry.
The science is in on stem cells, and adult stem cells are actually working RIGHT NOW to cure over 60 diseases...which is why that type of research has no problem getting private funding.
So apples to apples, I don't think a competition for IQ would be won hands down by democrats. Bush certainly held his own at the debates with Gore and Kerry.
The science is in on stem cells, and adult stem cells are actually working RIGHT NOW to cure over 60 diseases...which is why that type of research has no problem getting private funding.
Bush held his own? Have you replayed those tapes lately and did you happen to notice HE WAS WIRED DURING ONE OF THEM? YOUR PRESIDENT could have an IQ of 3,000,485 for all I care, but that doesn't change the fact that he is the biggest LYING, STINKING, WARMONGERING, FASCIST ON THE PLANET hell-bent on destroying DEMOCRACY IN OUR COUNTRY BY CREATING 800 SIGNING STATEMENTS and by MANIPULATING OUR ELECTIONS USING FRAUDULENT VOTING MACHINES COURTESY OF DIEBOLD! He also has no problem killing brown babies. He loves that especially and one doesn't have to have a high IQ to figure that one out either.
Who is doing the science? Republicans? Hey, I don't care where the stem cells come from as long as they can be used for testing to create cures! If a women's eggs are going to be discarded in the trash, why is it not okay by you neocons to scrape the stem cells before doing it? See how you neocons are? You're okay with throwing the eggs in the trash to die but are not okay with scraping the cells off which could cause the "death" of the cell. Either way, it's going to die, so why not use what science can to find a cure?
Bush doesn't believe in science unless one of his right wing religious scientists are doing the science. Bush is a freak.
Who is doing the science? Republicans? Hey, I don't care where the stem cells come from as long as they can be used for testing to create cures! If a women's eggs are going to be discarded in the trash, why is it not okay by you neocons to scrape the stem cells before doing it? See how you neocons are? You're okay with throwing the eggs in the trash to die but are not okay with scraping the cells off which could cause the "death" of the cell. Either way, it's going to die, so why not use what science can to find a cure?
Bush doesn't believe in science unless one of his right wing religious scientists are doing the science. Bush is a freak.
Wow, you REALLY think we get stem cells from woman's eggs? WOW.
You also switch the argument - first Bush's a moron...until evidence shows he's not, then it suddenly doesn't matter!
But here's the thing, in order to make a moral judgment about his CULPABILITY you have to know whether or not he's aware of the goodness or badness of his actions. IF HE'S A MORON, then it follows that while he might be doing something bad, he wouldn't be morally culpable for it.
But you want him to be BOTH a moron AND guilty. Unfortunately for you, it doesn't work that way. If he's a MORON, then the most you can say is "his actions are harmful" but you can't assign moral guilt as "he wouldn't know better".
So I think you really mean to say you don't agree with him, not that he's stupid.
Actually it'd be better for your side of the argument to claim he's an evil genius and thus, knowing full well what he's doing, is thereby that much more culpable for it.
Couple final points: voting machines are determined by local states - 20 of which are run by democrats.... so it's not like Diebold has a monopoly. AND while allegations have been made, nothing has been PROVEN.
Bush hasn't ordered the death of "brown babies" but I continue to note that Democrats have LONG been in favor of abortion for minority women in this country, whereas Bush is NOT in favor of minority women getting abortions. So who is REALLY in favor of brown babies getting killed? Seems like it's more the Dems than the Republicans.
You also switch the argument - first Bush's a moron...until evidence shows he's not, then it suddenly doesn't matter!
But here's the thing, in order to make a moral judgment about his CULPABILITY you have to know whether or not he's aware of the goodness or badness of his actions. IF HE'S A MORON, then it follows that while he might be doing something bad, he wouldn't be morally culpable for it.
But you want him to be BOTH a moron AND guilty. Unfortunately for you, it doesn't work that way. If he's a MORON, then the most you can say is "his actions are harmful" but you can't assign moral guilt as "he wouldn't know better".
So I think you really mean to say you don't agree with him, not that he's stupid.
Actually it'd be better for your side of the argument to claim he's an evil genius and thus, knowing full well what he's doing, is thereby that much more culpable for it.
Couple final points: voting machines are determined by local states - 20 of which are run by democrats.... so it's not like Diebold has a monopoly. AND while allegations have been made, nothing has been PROVEN.
Bush hasn't ordered the death of "brown babies" but I continue to note that Democrats have LONG been in favor of abortion for minority women in this country, whereas Bush is NOT in favor of minority women getting abortions. So who is REALLY in favor of brown babies getting killed? Seems like it's more the Dems than the Republicans.
Kay, Molly is a goddess among us Democrats here in Texas. She warned us about Bushco years ago, and sadly, a majority chose not to listen. I've been a fan of hers for over 20 years. And I miss Barbara Jordan, she with the voice of God.
Okay, how's this:
BUSH IS A CRIMINAL. HE WAS BORN TO CRIMINALS AND HAS ALSO SPAWNED TWO OF HIS OWN CRIMINALS. HE'S THE BIGGEST CRIMINAL IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW ALONG WITH HIS PNAC BUNCH.
CRIMINAL IS HE.
Check out this gov. site all about stem cells:
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics3.asp
And, tell me what you were doing, thinking, and eating when you were a stem cell idiot! LOL YOUR PARTY acts like stem cells are live babies whose cells are sucked out of their lives bodies! Idiots.
If you're so worried about eggs, sperm, and cells creating a life, please explain why you rally behind a president who didn't fight in the Vietnam war but thinks the killing of babies in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon is so much fun!
Is it because of money? Is that why? If stem cells could make you a billionaire in 3 short weeks, would you change your mind about using them for research? I bet so.
Also, I mistakes all the time, however, I AM NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I remember during the 1990's no one in your party would forgive CLINTON OR ANYONE ELSE IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR MAKING A MISTAKE! My, my, my how things HAVEN'T changed now that there is a republican in the White House!
YOUR PARTY HAS BLAMED MY PARTY FOR YEARS. Get used to us hating yours and pointing out their stupidities.
BUSH IS A CRIMINAL. HE WAS BORN TO CRIMINALS AND HAS ALSO SPAWNED TWO OF HIS OWN CRIMINALS. HE'S THE BIGGEST CRIMINAL IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW ALONG WITH HIS PNAC BUNCH.
CRIMINAL IS HE.
Check out this gov. site all about stem cells:
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics3.asp
And, tell me what you were doing, thinking, and eating when you were a stem cell idiot! LOL YOUR PARTY acts like stem cells are live babies whose cells are sucked out of their lives bodies! Idiots.
If you're so worried about eggs, sperm, and cells creating a life, please explain why you rally behind a president who didn't fight in the Vietnam war but thinks the killing of babies in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon is so much fun!
Is it because of money? Is that why? If stem cells could make you a billionaire in 3 short weeks, would you change your mind about using them for research? I bet so.
Also, I mistakes all the time, however, I AM NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I remember during the 1990's no one in your party would forgive CLINTON OR ANYONE ELSE IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR MAKING A MISTAKE! My, my, my how things HAVEN'T changed now that there is a republican in the White House!
YOUR PARTY HAS BLAMED MY PARTY FOR YEARS. Get used to us hating yours and pointing out their stupidities.
If you're so worried about eggs, sperm, and cells creating a life, please explain why you rally behind a president who didn't fight in the Vietnam war but thinks the killing of babies in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon is so much fun!
But them's the terrahists, so it's okay to kill 'em... GAW-DUH done did say so!
Don't try arguing that sort of thing with a pro-deather. (I'm sorry, but if you love the military and the death penalty, then your ass ain't pro-life.) They'll find some biblical way to justify this horseshit, all while screaming about the "poor, innocent babies" that die during an abortion.
It ain't worth your time.
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But them's the terrahists, so it's okay to kill 'em... GAW-DUH done did say so!
Don't try arguing that sort of thing with a pro-deather. (I'm sorry, but if you love the military and the death penalty, then your ass ain't pro-life.) They'll find some biblical way to justify this horseshit, all while screaming about the "poor, innocent babies" that die during an abortion.
It ain't worth your time.
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