Monday, January 15, 2007

 

Wartime Leader



This portrait shows the state of the American President as he prepares to launch yet another war.

Is he Deranged? Is he a Madman? Is he Evil? Is he simply Misguided? Is he a Waraphobic? Is he Dangerous? Is he the Crockpot Cowboy that swaggers to and fro? Who is this Amourous Prologue of War?

Comments:
After his little charade on 60 Minutes last evening, it's obvious this is evidence there is something lacking in his personal life, to be so oblivious to all that is going on around him.

Ugh ; (
 
i'll go with #2 / MADMAN
 
Bush openly said on 60 Minuts that he doesn't care what congress says, he is still pursuing his war.

This guy is evil.
 
Ok, we have a dictatorship now.I am not looking to cast blame. I am seeking a solution. I WILL say that if the right wing radio and TV was not pumping the propaganda into the populace every day there would not be anything close to 30% support for these fascist pigs.They would be a fringe whacko segment of society with 10% support at the most. In fact I do not even believe in polls that give Bush 30% support.

Impeachment will take a while but it must be started and soon. There may not even be enough votes in the end to convict.

Removal of the neocon pigs will require a full court press consisting of massive, sustained sit-in protests around the White House and the start of immediate impeachment in the House.The cherry picked, sycophant generals will not help the citizenry.And the young, brainwashed soldiers will follow orders.

This must be coordinated through the blog owners, media that is not republican owned, and most importantly the Members of Congress who will show the people that we have a very grave and serious problem in the Executive branch with regard to their unitary executive and signing statements that ignore the law.

Impeachment will not work by itself`. The Pigs will simply ignore it and claim national security in a time of war must have priority. They have shown that they are not adverse to creating a constitutional crisis.This is why there must be a coordinated, simultaneous approach to removal of Bush and Cheney. Yes, blood may be spilled at the sit-ins in DC. But the tree of liberty must be watered from time to time...

It is time. They are about to start a war with Iran and possibly put this country under Martial law. I would not put anything past them at this point.

MikeyInMaine
 
Um... is that a real Time cover? Or did you play with it a little?
 
MikeyInMaine

Superb post.

Meanwhile, hear the crickets chirping?

Seems Americans are not going to get off their fat backsides until a DI is kicking them into a sandy place. Bush dares Congress while he laughs at his country's apathy.

*buries face in both hands*
 
"Seems Americans are not going to get off their fat backsides until a DI is kicking them into a sandy place. Bush dares Congress while he laughs at his country's apathy."

And what are they doing in England about Blair and Co.?
 
Rocky "And what are they doing in England about Blair and Co.?"

You seem to conveniently 'forget' that it's YOUR country that's leading mine, NOT the other way around.

All of Britain's warmongering will be solved if those responsible for causing the warmongering in the world - AMERICANS - would get off their fat arses and protest Vietnam-style/demand impeachment and remove from power your (double) authoritarian leaders.

At least it would be a START.

I assure you, if it were Britain leading these crimes against humanity I would be protesting in the streets - like I did BEFORE the war began, you may remember, London had the BIGGEST pre-war demonstrations in the WORLD and I am proud to say I was part of them!


Were you one of the 80%+ who fell for Bush's BS? Did you want to invade the ME? Were you one of the 80%+ who wanted vengeance rather than justice 5 years ago?

Don't you moralise to me. I won't take this BS from you or anyone else. I FULLY UNDERSTOOD i.e. BEFORE the war happened, what WOULD happen. Only a COMPLETE IMBECILE would not be able to forsee religious violence erupting among theocratic, primitive nations once a power vacuum developed - and that was INEVITABLE once you removed Saddam just as CHENEY ONCE SAID SO, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE 41st PRESIDENT!
 
Hey... no one FORCED you or your PM to play ball, Blair went willingly along. Many of your people were against the war and British involvement, and you say you are too, (right?) so, I say again...

WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT?

The only one that's been moralizing (preaching) here has been you! We're doing what we can with what we have and the way we think best, so why don't you tend to your own pot and leave us to ours, comprendez?
 
Rocky "Hey... no one FORCED you or your PM to play ball,"

I've never "played ball" in that respect.


"Blair went willingly along."

Agreed. He is following your lead.


"Many of your people were against the war and British involvement, and you say you are too, (right?) so, I say again...

WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT?"

Trying to stop the problem AT IT'S SOURCE (in America) rather than deal with the SYMPTOMS (in Britain).


"The only one that's been moralizing (preaching) here has been you!"

If that's how you choose to see my comments then so be it. I would FAR rather have you scream at ME on a computer screen than scream 'mom' as you die in a pool of blood in the ME!!
I'm here as an ALLY not an enemy trying my best to kick you up the arse before a DI does right into a sandy place. Get it?


"We're doing what we can with what we have and the way we think best"

Are you really doing WHAT you can? Is that really, honestly, hand-on-heart the truth? Is this the best the #1 country on the planet has to offer? Because it seems to me to be no more and far less than what the French would do...


"so why don't you tend to your own pot and leave us to ours, comprendez?"

1. Because sometimes a different opinion can enable people WHO ARE WILLING TO LEARN adopt a new approach.
2. YOU are the country that is LEADING other countries down this path, NOT the other way around
3. An inevitability of having 'allies' means leaders of OTHER COUNTRIES WILL SUPPORT AMERICAN 'LEADERS' REGARDLESS

even if the people of that country (Britain, Australia etc.) disagree.
 
Hey, Dr. Spock... analyze this:

"Were you one of the 80%+ who fell for Bush's BS? Did you want to invade the ME? Were you one of the 80%+ who wanted vengeance rather than justice 5 years ago?

"Don't you moralise to me. I won't take this BS from you or anyone else. I FULLY UNDERSTOOD i.e. BEFORE the war happened, what WOULD happen. Only a COMPLETE IMBECILE would not be able to forsee religious violence erupting among theocratic, primitive nations once a power vacuum developed - and that was INEVITABLE once you removed Saddam just as CHENEY ONCE SAID SO, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE 41st PRESIDENT!"

Would your eminence say that THAT was a tad reactionary? Maybe they do things different in Jolly Ol' England, matey, but here when someone starts doing the self-righteous thing, it gets a negative response.

You think that you have all the answers, and when someone doesn't agree or puts a different slant on things, you go spastic. Your comments have been heard... relax already.

You seem to think that America is responsible for every goddamn schism that pops up in the world. Don't you people think for yourselves?

"Agreed. He is following your lead."

"Trying to stop the problem AT IT'S SOURCE (in America) rather than deal with the SYMPTOMS (in Britain)."

Maybe the symptoms are a gutless PM and a people with no backbone. That's what you're telling us we are, and in a very condescending way, I might add.

Read my lips: No one FORCED you to follow ANYONE! Is any of this getting through to you, son, or has the sea water turned your brain to mush? You don't like this war -- neither do I! I never did, even from the get-go. So don't go preaching to me about what I do or don't like... you know squat about me!

As for your itemized list:


"1. Because sometimes a different opinion can enable people WHO ARE WILLING TO LEARN adopt a new approach."

We got the message the FIRST time around.

"2. YOU are the country that is LEADING other countries down this path, NOT the other way around."

To borrow a line from an anti-drinking and driving ad: "Hey... you can just say NO!" Are we stitched at the hip or something?

"3. An inevitability of having 'allies' means leaders of OTHER COUNTRIES WILL SUPPORT AMERICAN 'LEADERS' REGARDLESS"

Here's my scientific response to that:

Bullshit!

Get off the pot, BG. You're conscience is smarting and you're looking to post the blame on someone other than yourself! Cry me a river, buddy, your self-righteous piety disgusts me!
 
rocky "Would your eminence say that THAT was a tad reactionary? Maybe they do things different in Jolly Ol' England, matey, but here when someone starts doing the self-righteous thing, it gets a negative response."

The point of my post was to treat (moralise) YOU exactly the same manner as you treated (moralised over) me. Don't like it do you? I can't say I blame you, neither do I.


"You think that you have all the answers"

No I don't. Just a suggestion based on what has worked historically before under similar circumstances in the same country. Like I wrote in a previous post, "At least it would be a START".
And at least I'm suggesting ways forward, rather than WASTING TIME sitting at home, in a nice cosy room, waxing lyrical about what things are going wrong and what are we to do etc. rather than thinking/planning/organising what Americans should be doing IN THE STREETS. (If Vietnam is anything to go by)


"and when someone doesn't agree or puts a different slant on things, you go spastic. Your comments have been heard... relax already."

My comments have been hard? I've not even got into my stride yet! You think my comments have been hard when WWIII is looming? You think I'm kidding? You think this is a joke? You think I'm exaggerating?


"You seem to think that America is responsible for every goddamn schism that pops up in the world. Don't you people think for yourselves?"

No. That's another ridiculous, emotional response. America has nothing to do with the conflict in Sudan. America has nothing to do with the rising tensions between the Serbs and the Croats.

AMERICA HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WWIII IN THE ME INVOLVING CHINA, RUSSIA AND MY COUNTRY.


"Maybe the symptoms are a gutless PM and a people with no backbone. That's what you're telling us we are, and in a very condescending way, I might add."

Blair is kissing up to Bush NOT because he's 'gutless' but because he wants a slice of the black gold pie for Britain. That's what I'm telling you.
And since Britain has already held demonstrations which DWARF the biggest of yours to date - if we are 'spineless' then what does that make you?
And I'm being deliberately condescending to try to WAKE YOU UP FROM YOUR STUPOR OF APATHY AND GO OUTDOORS.

And for all your protestations I have yet to hear anything from you as to WHAT would be a better way forward than hitting the streets.

ALL I've heard from you is 'I don't like your tone' and 'what do you know mr. know-it-all' and 'go sort out your own problems'.
YOU HAVE NOT YET OFFERED A SINGLE SOLUTION.


"Read my lips: No one FORCED you to follow ANYONE!"

Irrelevant. Britain's leaders are your allies/kissups so they'll follow you whatever - if you want international allies.
Good or bad leaders, it doesn't make any difference. In a fair and just world it would and maybe it should but we're beyond that now. We are on the brink of WWIII. This is NOT a time for waxing lyrical.


"Is any of this getting through to you, son, or has the sea water turned your brain to mush? You don't like this war -- neither do I! I never did, even from the get-go. So don't go preaching to me about what I do or don't like... you know squat about me!"

As I wrote at the top of this post, my previous post was in response to yours and deliberately designed to treat you as you treated me. If you don't like me moralising to you then don't moralise to me *son*


"As for your itemized list:
2. To borrow a line from an anti-drinking and driving ad: "Hey... you can just say NO!" Are we stitched at the hip or something?"

Yes. And it's a good thing too. BUT NOT when you are being led by authoritarians. ONLY YOU can sort this out.


"3. Bullshit. Get off the pot, BG. You're conscience is smarting and you're looking to post the blame on someone other than yourself! Cry me a river, buddy, your self-righteous piety disgusts me!"

You use an expletive with no historical examples of why I'm supposedly wrong yet I have present-day events as evidence of my claims. Leaders of other countries will support good or bad American leaders. Look out the window.

I've never taken drugs.


My conscience is smarting, agreed, but not for the reasons you state because you don't know my mind. I'm NOT looking to blame anyone else, I'm looking for solutions to the SOURCE of the problems. That's why I keep posting SUGGESTIONS.

And I've yet to hear anything better from anyone else. All I keep hearing are whiney, pathetic, diversionary, pseudo-patriotic excuses. And you call me pious! Your santimonious drivel is nauseating.

Get off your fat arse and protest.

If you have a better suggestion, then I'm all ears and I WILL HELP YOU.

Or are you going to waste another load of electrons refuting my post WHILE OFFERING ABSOLUTELY NO SOLUTIONS???
 
"And I've yet to hear anything better from anyone else. All I keep hearing are whiney, pathetic, diversionary, pseudo-patriotic excuses. And you call me pious! Your santimonious drivel is nauseating."

"And I've yet to hear anything better from anyone else. All I keep hearing are whiney, pathetic, diversionary, pseudo-patriotic excuses. And you call me pious! Your santimonious drivel is nauseating."

"And I've yet to hear anything better from anyone else. All I keep hearing are whiney, pathetic, diversionary, pseudo-patriotic excuses. And you call me pious! Your santimonious drivel is nauseating."

Etc.,etc.,etc.....

Anyone else out there listening? Your Saviour is speaking!

*Yawn*
 
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