White Noise Insanity

Of course disasters always happen - a nation the size of America is exposed to volcanoes, earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, fires... so people should take the time and very reasonable expense to prepare a bin with 1 week's worth of food, water, OTC medicines or prescriptions, as well as clothing and first aid. It's simply par for course.

It's what any RATIONAL person living in a city below sea level would have done....only the Democrats who totally controlled New Orleans and the state of Lousianna decided to spend their money on booze and Mardi Gras and not on better Levies or emergency preparedness (such as back up generators and fuel at the hospitals or nursing homes...or back up plans to use their school and municipal buses to evac people out...)

Once disaster strikes the Liberal 'plan' is to blame Bush and the GOP rather than TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTIY FOR THEIR SAFETY. Apparently liberals aren't adults so feel that someone ELSE ought to be in charge of feeding them, clothing them, housing them, teaching them and providing security and health care 24/7/365.

But they also flatter themselves for being "free and independent"! Ha!
 

Of course, Bush played guitar and continued fundraising when people in New Orleans drowned in their attics. That's how republicans handle everything.....they deny there is a problem and turn their backs on those in need!

The other republican plan is to drop bombs on thousands of people hoping to kill one terrorist (of course, no one knows for sure that there really is a terrorist in the area, but Bush thinks because he says there was then there is). Yup, if there is 80,000 people attending a football game and there is one terrorist amongst the bunch, it makes perfect sense to the Christofascists to drop a bomb on the stadium killing everyone there because it will give them bragging rights that they killed one bad guy!!!!

Republicans hate those that are in need. Christofascists are like that. They hate the poor, they hate the disabled, they hate the elderly, they hate the veterans (who are in all 3 groups) but give them a petre dish full of stem cells and they cry like children if they think these little tiny cells are going to be used to save a life! Oh how their hearts weep!!!!!!!!! Once born, republicans tell the baby to fuck off and be happy that mom is addicted to crack. Their mantra is, "Hey kid, you're on your own! We could care less if you're hungry. We could care less if your clothes are rags and the roof over your head is leaking and giving you life threatening problems! We hate you! Now, either turn back into a stem cell or you get nothing! We spend our money on bombs.......not babies!!!".

Republicans used to be a cohert bunch of people until Ronald Reagan came around. Reagan fucked everything up...and Bush is continuing his tradition too!!!!!
 

People drowned in the attics because their Democratic overlords didn't use the 300 school buses and 300 city buses to haul them to safety as their OWN PLAN called for.

People drowned in the attics because the local city and state first responders DROPPED THE BALL.(Hint, we live in a FEDERAL REPUBLIC, NOT A CENTRALIZED SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - SO THE FEDS AREN'T THE ONLY 'FIRST RESPONDERS).

You prefer to blame Bush as though he's super-man and single-handedly could have saved the day by waving a magic wand.

But this choice - blaming one man instead of the locals who had all the time and all the money they wanted to put emergency contingency plans in place for THEIR OWN CITY - would be the responsible thing to do. The compassionate thing to do.

How "compassionate" is it to avoid learning lessons from hurricanes and instead continue to nurture hatred of the President as though he were a god capable of magically rescuing thousands of people whom the locals had called to evacuate and had plans on paper to evacuate?

As for Republicans bombing sports stadiums to get one terrorist... BS, even as hyperbole. Your side is the side claiming we ought to invade Pakistan to "get" Osama.

You continue to believe the science fiction that embryonic stem cells cure people - when all the evidence to date shows that the only REAL LIFE CURES are coming from adult and umbillical cord stem cells - 61 cures to date so far and growing....

Your side is the side of hatred of children - witness your love of teacher's Unions rather than school choice for poor children... your federal funding of abortion but not for mothers who chose to keep their children.

Your side is the side of bigotry and racism - you're constantly PRESUMING that blacks can't compete on a level playing field and need special help; PRESUMING that Hispanics can't learn English so need special help; PRESUMING that 3rd worlders aren't morally responsible for their actions so can't help killing people.

You are the admitted party of Hate and that's another reason why, come November, you will lose.
 

The onnlt thing scary I see is you and this blog.
 

Republicans used to be a cohert bunch of people until Ronald Reagan came around. Reagan fucked everything up...and Bush is continuing his tradition too!!!!!

you are a nut.

Reagan SAVED the Republican party form the elitist country club Republicans that were happy takiing scraps from the Democrats for 40 years.

Learn history, then shave your head, it might help your brain breath.
 

Analuseless#1 said...

Of course disasters always happen -

Then unlike an "unexpected" attack like 9-11 we should be Better prepared for them...don't ya thunk?

a nation the size of America is exposed to volcanoes, earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, fires... so people should take the time and very reasonable expense to prepare a bin with 1 week's worth of food, water, OTC medicines or prescriptions, as well as clothing and first aid. It's simply par for course.

Of course living on $5.15 an hour leaves more than enough money to accomplish this doesn't it..son?

It's what any RATIONAL person living in a city below sea level would have done....only the Democrats who totally controlled New Orleans and the state of Louisiana decided to spend their money on booze and Mardi Gras and not on better Levies

I hate to burst that bubble you live in son, but that is totally the responsibility of the US Army corps of Engineers...sort of destroys your argument doesn't it son. Because if the repugs in congress hadn't CUT funding for the levees in the Corps of engineers budget, some of the deficiencies could have been dealt with, but a dumb repug NEVER lets the FACTS get in the way of political spin do they ...GrOPer supporter

or emergency preparedness (such as back up generators and fuel at the hospitals or nursing homes...

they had those but when they run out of fuel and no resupply because NOBODY is coming....and when the water rises over the top or the air intake.....the diesel engines do sort of fail to run....son.

or back up plans to use their school and municipal buses to evac people out...)

kind of hard since the drivers of those buses are told to evacuate...and the National Guard troops who would have filled in and driven those buses are just a couple of thousands of miles away fighting a war the idiot in chief lied his way into.

Once disaster strikes the Liberal 'plan' is to blame Bush and the GOP rather than TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTIY FOR THEIR SAFETY.


NO STUPID...the fact that Katrina was the largest and most powerful hurricane to strike the country might require the Feds to MOBILISE, which usually requires the commander to REPORT FOR DUTY...not go to McCain's Birthday party to eat cake..and the next day go to a fair to play guitar before going to a POLITICAL fund raiser ...while a Major American city is drowning.....he's sure got his priorities in line there.

But he did a fly over did he not?


Apparently liberals aren't adults so feel that someone ELSE ought to be in charge of feeding them,

When their homes are flooded, have NO electricity or running water, yes It might be common to expect they need a bit of help...that 5.15 job left little to plan on there son.

clothing them,

see above...wet clothes which are polluted with water contaminated by raw sewage and hazardous chemicals do need washing...but the washer is flooded, and does not run too well with no electricity

housing them,

same as above the HOUSE is flooded...where do you suppose they live at that point?

teaching them

Since the government assumed that power and requires it with the force of law...makes sense to me.


and providing security

Police is a government power...as the military also is...do you propose privatising those functions of government?

and health care 24/7/365.


Most $5.15 jobs do not have that as a benefit...which means they have to choose between food...clothing and housing first, (at least until the hurricane takes all that away)...or planning for the hurricane..or health care which they will not need long if they pay for health care but fail to have enough left over to eat on.

But they also flatter themselves for being "free and independent"!
Ha!

Typical reichwingnut attack those who are the MOST vulnerable...while living in denial they could ever find themselves in similar situations.....dream on son.
 

Analuseless#2 said...

People drowned in the attics because their Democratic overlords didn't use the 300 school buses and 300 city buses to haul them to safety as their OWN PLAN called for.

Well son the drivers of those buses were evacuating with their families...and the drivers who would have filled in and drove the buses were ...well...kind of a bit too far away fighting a optional . Since the Federal government(pentagon) took the drivers from the state of Louisiana, the war Bush lied his way into, they pentagon should have rushed replacement drivers in right quick...since FEMA knew that the original drivers were MIA...or RIGHT FEMA doing the job it used to preform quite well when Clinton was president...that's right Bush ET AL saw FEMA as nothing more than a patronage department to reward political hacks ...like brownie....

People drowned in the attics because the local city and state first responders DROPPED THE BALL.

No son the first responders were OVERWHELMED by the category 4 hurricane that stretched from the Florida panhandle to Texas. and the first line of defense for the State which could have been sent into NO to aid in the evacuation..and speed the recovery were taken away by the President in his STUPID fiasco in Iraq, but HE sent no replacements until 4 days after the hurricane hit.


(Hint, we live in a FEDERAL REPUBLIC, NOT A CENTRALIZED SOCIALIST REPUBLIC - SO THE FEDS AREN'T THE ONLY 'FIRST RESPONDERS).


Unless the president DECLARES a NATIONAL emergency...which Bush did Before the Hurricane hit...a declaration of national emergency means the FEDS are coming to help because they know the locals and state are going to be overwhelmed...Bush declared it, but SENT nobody to help NO until 4 days after the Hurricane hit...but that cake did taste real good, and it was sure fun playing guitar with a country star at a fair, and GOD knows the GOP does need more money ..which means he had to go to the fund raiser while the people in NO could wait for Bush to Mobilise the federal government in the National emergency he declared before the Hurricane hit.....

You prefer to blame Bush as though he's super-man and single-handed could have saved the day by waving a magic wand.

No son, actually I hold the president responsible because he declared a state of emergency which means the FEDS mobilise...but he went on leave to California.

and the Pentagon took the 256th Infantry Division(National Guard) out of Louisiana to fight in Iraq, but when the Hurricane appeared, the pentagon FAILED to provide replacements to the state. Kind of like the Feds admitted it was the Feds problem before the fact. However they waited 4 days until the entire world wondered what was wrong with FEMA and the Federal Government. Then they acted because the press had more people in NO than the feds dealing with the WORST natural disaster ever to hit this country. Bush hates bad press don't ya know. Too bad he did not watch the news..and his aids had to make HIM a DVD with the facts on it for him to see.

But this choice - blaming one man

Not ONE man stupid...the Office of the Presidency of the United States.

instead of the locals who had all the time and all the money they wanted to put emergency contingency plans in place for THEIR OWN CITY -

Except those plans were basically GUTTED by removing the Louisiana's National Guard unit the state and city were to rely on...the national Guard unit who's Headquarters is Jackson Barracks in the city of New Orleans...


would be the responsible thing to do.

Responsible thing to do? going on Leave when the worst national disaster in the nations history erupts...seems as responsible as reading a first grade book while you KNOW the country is under attack

The compassionate thing to do.

Sorry son but compassion and Bush are not really synonymous any more.

How "compassionate" is it to avoid learning lessons from hurricanes

Like the federal government under Bush DID?

and instead continue to nurture hatred of the President

Not hatred son, just direct criticism of HIM being on leave while the country is experiencing the worst national disaster in it's history, after HE declared a federal state of emergency, which means everyone gets ready to respond...unless they want cake, and to play guitar...and have a few dollars to get their friends...after all the people in New Orleans have no money to give the GOP especially after the hurricane hit.

as though he were a god

Or pretends to actually to talk to God? You'd a thunk God would have warned the idiot,


capable of magically rescuing thousands of people whom the locals had called to evacuate and had plans on paper to evacuate?

Like sending troops to replace the National Guard unit that he took for his optional illegal war in Iraq, to drive those buses, and direct traffic, and run resupply missions with those HEMMET trucks that the military brought in 4 days after the fact, those trucks which were able to drive around would have been very effective in alleviating the suffering and deaths of untold numbers of people. Too bad Georgie took the ones Louisiana had and FAILED to replace then until it was too late for many.

As for Republicans bombing sports stadiums to get one terrorist...

No son, they have their proxies do it for them. At least the PNAC repus do.

BS, even as hyperbole.

Yes Roves entire mantra is built on BS

Your side is the side claiming we ought to invade Pakistan to "get" Osama.

No son we should have left the military assets in Afghanistan including task force 20 which had the Arabic trained personnel to capture Osama(you know the guy Bush forgot)...instead of lying and distorting the role of Iraq and their NON-EXISTANT WMD's......nice try at spin but like repugs you a wee bit factually challenged on this one.

You continue to believe the science fiction that embryonic stem cells cure people -

No son , the research from stem cells which are left over from unfertilised attempts which are destined for discarding..thus NEVER ever have a chance of being embryos, could provide some cures and treatments in other cases.


when all the evidence to date shows that the only REAL LIFE CURES are coming from adult and umbilical cord stem cells -

Sorry son, but that Rovian talking point has been debunked by the Chicago Tribune, not exactly a liberal rag son.

61 cures to date so far and growing....

So why ARE you so against possibilities, when the cycloblastin have no chance of being implanted, thus no chance of developing into fetuses, but could be used for finding cures that do not exist today instead of ending up in the medical waste bin.


Your side is the side of hatred of children -

No son we want them to have good food, good health care, a good education, and a living wage for their parents......why do YOU oppose those for the children?

witness your love of teacher's Unions rather than school choice for poor children...

Because the "choice" available to the richer, not the poorer, who for the LARGEST part get left in schools with LESS money, and less chance of competing when they grow up.

Choice is the repug euphemism. for "privatisation" of education, just as they privatised health care, which is currently seen as a looming fiasco in this country.


your federal funding of abortion but not for mothers who chose to keep their children.

No son I AM all for helping the mother and child....Reagan was the one who derided them with the moniker of "welfare Queen", and demonised them for trying to raise their families by asking for HELP.

Your side is the side of bigotry and racism -

That is FUNNY coming from a repug supporting particion, who supports Trent Lott, Strom Thurmand, Jessie Helms, George Allen, J D Hayworth, Thomas Tancredo, Conrad Burns, Rick Santuram, Jeff Sessions, Ted Stevens, James Talent, John Bolton, Dick Cheney, Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, David Duke,Bill O'Liely, Shawn Hannity, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, among others.....son,


you're constantly PRESUMING that blacks can't compete on a level playing field and need special help;


Years of discriminatory treatment will produce some unintended results, but with some assistance they can overcome the discrimination they have endured since they were brought to this country in chains.


PRESUMING that Hispanics can't learn English so need special help;

Like somebody to translate, or having their written language used when they receive notices produced by the government that claims to represent them ..ALSO?

PRESUMING that 3rd worlders aren't morally responsible for their actions so can't help killing people.

Not like we never did that eh son,

In places like Vietnam(1954-1975), Chile(1973), Iraq(1991-), Iran(1953), Nicaragua(1981-1986), and by proxy..Afghanistan (1980-), Lebanon (1982-), The West Bank and Gaza (1967-) among others....

You are the admitted party of Hate

Sorry son but that LIE is simply reichwingnut repug spin to cover you parties admitted southern strategy which Nixon began and EVERY repug presidential race has been built on since. Ever wonder why they make the pilgrimage to Bob Jones U? Or Reagan's attack on "welfare queens" even though the truth was more poor white people than poor black people were using welfare to aid their families...or Bush41's Willie Horton ad..the One Lee Atwater apologised for when He found out HE had cancer and was soon to meet HIS maker?

and that's another reason why, come November, you will lose.

Stay tuned son, because the polls and historical trends seem to refute your assertion, and the public does not seem so willing to accept the idiot as one of them any more. But actually want competent adult leadership in DC this time. The repugs who supposedly used to have safe seats are in the political fight for their seats, and except for Loserman, no Democrat is failing so bad. Another bad omen for thr GOP, is the fact that the returning Iraqi vets are running as Democrats not repugs....not a good sign because that points to their belief that the commander in chief and party he represents is not where they look for answers, after they served.
 

Analuseless said...

Republicans used to be a cohert bunch of people until Ronald Reagan came around. Reagan fucked everything up...and Bush is continuing his tradition too!!!!!

you are a nut.

Pot see kettle

Reagan SAVED the Republican party form the elitist country club Republicans that were happy takiing scraps from the Democrats for 40 years.

Too bad he sacrificed the economic and fiscal future of the country to do it. And began the class warfare that pits the lower class against the rich, where the repugs represent the interests of the wealth, and deride those who have NOT been lucky enough to be born rich..like the idiot who lives in the white house was. and their continuing to spin lies as truth and ignoring the very real problems which they have created...like the budget imbalance and massive debt which means we owe the chinese 327 billion dollars and have to pay then interest each year, enough interest that our payments almost equal their defense budget,

Don't believe me?

well check this out:

The following is a comparison of interest paid on the Debt to the budget deficit, by year

Year...INT....deficit

2006 $398...$296billion(projected
2005 $352...$318
2004 $321...$413
2003 $318...$378
2002 $332...$157
2001 $359...$128(surpluss)
2000 $361...$236(surpluss)
1999 $353...$125(surpluss)
1998 $363...$069(surpluss)
1997 $355...$022
1996 $343...$107
1995 $332...$164
1994 $296...$203
1993 $292...$255
1992 $292...$290
1991 $286...$269
1990 $264...$221
1989 $240...$152
1988 $214...$155

It is interesting that the payments for interest on the debt run up before Reagan was out of office was MORE than the deficits run up after he got out...Until Bush 43 became president




The interest payments came from here



And the deficit numbers came from here

Do you think if REAGAN had paid the bills HE ran up the budget would be a little Less out of whack?

With out those massive interest payments, Bush41 might not have had to break his "read my lips" pledge. Also Ross Perot would have never tried to RUN as a result of what was thought at THAT time as massive debt. Tax cuts might not have broken the bank from 2002...until the present...

We would not be basically funding the Chinese military with the interest we pay to them, (they hold 327 billion in our debt) so we pay them interest on it.

Nor would we be paying large interest payments to the what the treasury dept calls the oil exporters(Oil exporters include Ecuador, Venezuela, Indonesia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Gabon, Libya, and Nigeria) who proly give some of it to the terrorists whom they have funded.(they hold $101.5 billion in debt) so we pay them interest on it.

Kind of weird, we are paying countries like china, venezuala and Iran for money they loaned the US. Not to mention we pay France interest for the 28.9 billion we borrowed, (how about that FOOLE?)and Germany 48.3 billion we borrowed.

Sweden 18.2 billion No way the socialists in Sweden have enough money to loan the capitalist US?

But the best of all;

Luxembourg 37.4 billion dollars loaned to the US

Population...465,000

GDP..........$29.37 billion


Think about that Luxembourg has loaned the US more money than their entire GDP for 2005.....I wonder if they just accept our interest payments in lue of taxing their citizens;

Luxembourg's stable, high-income economy features moderate growth, low inflation, and low unemployment. The industrial sector, which was until recently dominated by steel, has become increasingly more diversified to include chemicals, rubber, and other products. During the past decades, growth in the financial sector has more than compensated for the decline in steel. Services, especially banking and other financial exports, account for the majority of economic output.

wiki

Gee, I wonder who they loaned their money to?

and what would have happened if Reagan had paid the bills he ran up as president just like the rest of us have to do.

Learn history, then shave your head, it might help your brain breath.

See above, then take your own advise.
 

Oh and BTW analuseless....

Study of Test Scores Finds Charter Schools Lagging

WASHINGTON, Aug. 22 — Fourth graders in traditional public schools did significantly better in reading and math than comparable children attending charter schools, according to a report released on Tuesday by the Federal Education Department.

The report, based on 2003 test scores, thrust the Education Department into the center of the heated national debate over school choice. It also drew a barrage of criticism from supporters of charter schools, the fastest-growing sector in public education, who sent out press statements casting doubt on the report’s methodology and findings even before they were announced.

Even as the federal commissioner of education statistics, Mark S. Schneider, released the report, he said the agency should no longer put its official imprimatur on research comparing charter with public schools and leave such studies to independent researchers.

The study found that in 2003, fourth graders in traditional public schools scored an average of 4.2 points better in reading than comparable students in charter schools on the National Assessment of Educational Progress test, often called the nation’s report card. Students in traditional schools scored an average of 4.7 points better in math than comparable students in charter schools.

Students in charter schools that said they were affiliated with local school districts did better than those in schools largely independent from local systems, scoring on par with children in regular public schools in reading and math.

The study also compared traditional public schools with charter schools in central cities serving mostly minority students and found no significant difference in reading achievement at the different schools. However, math scores at such urban charter schools still lagged those at traditional schools, except when those charters were affiliated with local districts.

“We know they are not doing harm,” Mr. Schneider said of charter schools, “so they pass a fundamental test of policy analysis.”

But this was weak praise considering that proponents of charter schools have long argued that students at these institutions would show progress far greater than those at neighborhood schools.

The Bush administration is a strong proponent of charter schools. Education Secretary Margaret Spellings said in a statement Tuesday, “Charter schools are empowering low-income parents with new educational options and providing an important lifeline for families in areas where traditional public schools have fallen short of their responsibilities.”

The federal No Child Left Behind law aims to expand school choice by allowing schools whose students show insufficient progress for five years running to be shut down and reopened as charters.

Edward J. McElroy, president of the American Federation of Teachers, the public employees’ union that is critical of charter schools, said the study “provides further evidence against unchecked expansion of the charter school experiment.”

Jeanne Allen, president of the Center for Education Reform, a Washington group that advocates for charter schools, said the study used a flawed measure of poverty to find comparable students and failed to capture the variety of children attending charter schools and the many types of charters that exist.

“This research is no more valid than the government response to Katrina,” Ms. Allen said. “Why do we need to have the government give us data when the most important data is what we get locally, looking at the school and how it does in meeting the state standards to which they have to be held under No Child Left Behind?”

Charter schools, which are largely free from education regulations and are run by groups like nonprofit organizations and for-profit managers, are a fast-growing alternative to traditional public schools. Mr. Schneider showed discomfort on Tuesday at taking a stand on which kind of school performed better.

“This is one of the most contentious issues with regard to the charter school research debate,” Mr. Schneider said. He said the department should not put its stamp on research comparing public and charter schools but should leave individual researchers to use the data to compete in the “marketplace of ideas.”

How to judge the relative performance of public, charter and private schools has been a touchy issue for the department since 2004, when it initially avoided publicizing results from the 2003 assessment that were largely unfavorable to charters.

The teachers’ union ferreted those results out of the department’s Web site, showing that students in charters were largely trailing those in regular public schools. After the federation reported the scores, the department issued its own report confirming their accuracy.

But charter supporters objected to these findings, saying the raw scores did not convey the full picture of charter schools. They said children in charters were more disadvantaged than those in regular public schools and often turned to charters after having struck out in their neighborhood school.

Tuesday’s report, written by the Educational Testing Service, compared a nationally representative sample of 376,000 students at nearly 6,800 regular public schools with 6,500 students at 150 charter schools, controlling for race, socioeconomic status and other factors. The study did not look at students’ previous educational achievement.

Martin Carnoy, a professor of education at Stanford University who has written critically of charters, said he had found no evidence that lower-scoring students from regular public schools made up a disproportionate share of those moving to charters.

Supporters of charters argue that the findings represent only a snapshot of student performance in 2003, saying nothing about progress over time. Dr. Schneider said it had taken the National Center for Education Statistics that long to commission and review the study; the center’s main responsibility is the release of scores on the national assessment.

More recently, the 2005 national assessment showed no significant difference in reading scores between fourth graders in charters and those in regular public schools, although students at regular public schools did significantly better in math at fourth grade and in math and reading at eighth grade.

Seems the schools YOU advocate fail the test ...son. But then again failing tests on improving the country is kind of a repug meme ain't it son.

After all, we have captured the terrorists, and secured the country, both its borders and ports. Bush has balanced the budget like a good fiscal conservative would do. The repugs in congress have not raised the debt limit as they raise the debt, because we all know they are such good repug conservatives they would NEVER do that. They stand behind out troops.....like 9000 miles behind...especially at the time when they themselves could have been one of those troops on the front line....

No son the repugs would never do this...unless they could do it while decrying the democrats for being dangerous to the country. And get good photo ops for their re-election campaigns while doing it. Because GOD knows that getting re-elected is the MOST patriotic thing they can do for the country, right ...son?
 

HI Kay,

Love your sites. WE HAVE TO WIN CONGRESS IN NOVEMBER. Bush has gone over the edge and shown his true disdain for America, for the people, and for TRUTH.

xoxo,
Lydia
 

Aren't you afraid Bin Laden will come and grab your children from their back yards?

Aren't you afraid that Bin Laden will attack the nearest grocer, blow up the nearest Dairy Queen or infiltrate your local Chucky Cheese?

Aren't you afraid that Bin Laden will personally come into your home and attack the family dog?

Poor Bush has a tough job. He says that often. How can Bush track Bin Laden down if he is busy trying to start another war in Syria and Iran?

How can Bush track down the most notorius killer in US history when he has such a tough job?

How can Bush track down someone so dangerous when the whole world are waiting for Bush to stop terrorism by destroying Iraq?

How is Bush to attack Bin Laden when Bush would have to attack his own Crawford ranch to do so?
 

It wasn't National Guard or State Guardsmen who drove the school and city buses in New Orleans on a regular basis - it was New Orleans' civilian, CITY workers who did so.... and it wasn't FEMA that paid for diesel or backup generators in NEW Orlean's hospitals - that was totally A NEW ORLEANS thing.

If the buses sat idle and the generators didn't have enough fuel or weren't high enough off the ground...it was TOTALLY THE FAULT OF THE LOCALS - NOT THE FEDS OR BUSH.

So if the bus drivers of 600 buses hadn't been called up to drive their routes and pick up desperate city folk to evacuate them, it wasn't Bush or FEMA's fault as it wasn't BUSH OR FEMA'S job - it was the Mayor's evac plan thus HIS RESPONSIBILITY.

By blaming Bush or the feds for jobs that weren't his in the first place you ignore LOCAL PROBLEMS OR OVERSIGHTS that need fixing...

It isn't Bush or the National Guard's responsibility to feed, house, clothe, and educate Americans -it's....AMERICANS' RIGHT AND DUTY TO FEED, HOUSE, CLOTHE, AND EDUCATE THEMSELVES. We aren't wards of the State.

Even making $5.15 an hour, if you prioritise, you can save enough in 1 year to have a bin of food, water, and shelter materials (called "tarps") to ride out a week without services (Boy Scouts do it every year - it's called "summer camp"). It's a matter of priorities and budgetting - don't spend $ on bling-bling or tennis shoes or smokes or X-boxes and wide-screen TVs... Especially if you live in a city below sea-level!

And if the DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT RAN NEW ORLEANS KNEW SO MANY "poor" weren't prepared for flooding then why didn't they spend their billions of Hollywood, George Soros and DNC money (to say nothing of TAX REVENUE FROM THE OIL AND PORT INDUSTRIES) ON EMERGENCY PREPARDNESS AND EVAC?

THE DEMOCRATS RUN NEW ORLEANS - IT'S THEIR PEOPLE....THEY CONTROL LOCAL AND STATE TAXES... IF THEY DIDN'T SPEND THE MONEY WISELY THEN IT'S THEIR OWN DAMN FAULT.

FEMA was not designed to be "a first responder" or "only responder" agency. It's designed to MANAGE the efforts of local, state and federal agencies.... Katrina's mess was the EFFECT OF ZERO LOCAL AND STATE PLANNING, and IMMEDIATE democratic blame-games and lies.

It's not the Army Corps that stymied the levies... New Orleans and the State of Lousianna was in charge of billions of dollars of THEIR OWN MONEY - if they wanted bigger dikes and better emergency backup systems - they had 40 years to build them and pay for them.

It wasn't Bush's or FEMA's fault t that 200 New Orleans' Police went AWOL - left the job and started looting... if they left to "take care of their families" then you have to ask why their families weren't evacuated - and why the Police didn't have backup plans for flooding....

Bush didn't VETO a single spending bill in Congress - everyone ELSE's pork has been approved - so why didn't the democratic congresscritters earmark funds for this instead of Casino's and Mardi Gras?

How would Bush's immediate arrival on the scene to bite his lip like Clinton and "feel your pain" have SOLVED ANY PROBLEM???? Again you want style over substance. Was he supposed to strike up a pose and act tough? Run around and cry and blame someone like Nagan?

You people continue to blame Bush as though your mayor and governor had their acts together - as if YOUR party that ran the show was perfect and doesn't need fixing... which is why you'll NOT fix your own problems and instead glom on to Bush as though he's solely responsible for YOUR failure.
 

Analuseless said...

It wasn't National Guard or State Guardsmen who drove the school and city buses in New Orleans on a regular basis - it was New Orleans' civilian, CITY workers who did so....

Except in a disaster situation where the usual drivers each had families who needed evacuation...there is contingency plans to use the Louisiana's national Guard to replace those drivers..and carry out other actions the Governor or mayor would have felt necessary. think that was the reason Haley Barber called the national guard to duty in Mississippi two days before Katrina hit...too bad Gov Blanco did not have HER national guard.

and it wasn't FEMA that paid for diesel or backup generators in NEW Orleans hospitals - that was totally A NEW ORLEANS thing.

Right son except that the ROADS that the tanker trucks were supposed to drive over were kind of flooded. That would make getting the trucks in, but trucks the military uses are designed for crossing places like flooded areas....so they could do what the civilian tankers could not....cross the flooded areas of interstate 10 to get to downtown New Orleans...Just as they did four days after the hurricane HIT, instead of being available two days before the hurricane hit like the Mississippi guard were.

If the buses sat idle and the generators didn't have enough fuel or weren't high enough off the ground...it was TOTALLY THE FAULT OF THE LOCALS - NOT THE FEDS OR BUSH.

Sorry son Bush declared the state of emergency..and BY that fiat he TOOK responsibility...but as USUAL failed to follow through. He was not on duty when the hurricane hit and took leave to California for the first two days.

So if the bus drivers of 600 buses hadn't been called up to drive their routes and pick up desperate city folk to evacuate them,

Since they were evacuating their families just like they were told to.


it wasn't Bush or FEMA's fault as it wasn't BUSH OR FEMA'S job

Wrong again BOZO, bush made it HIS responsibility by enacting the state of emergency...and passed the buck to Chertoff...who though a meeting about avian bird flu...was more important than the WORST national disaster in US history was...so he passed the buck to Brownie.....who was in Baton Rouge and could see little and do less.


- it was the Mayor's evac plan thus HIS RESPONSIBILITY.

No son bush took charge with HIS declaration..which FEDERALISED the problem and placed the federal government at the forefront of the disaster...especially when the flooding began..which totally cut the city's ability to respond.

By blaming Bush or the feds for jobs that weren't his

It was bush's right when HE declared a state of emergency from Florida to the Texas border, and that placed FEMA at the forefront of the problem...that declaration of emergency means BUSH took charge...nobody but he can do it..but when he does he assumed responsibility. and that made FEMA the lead agency for response. They do need some aid in determining where the need is most urgent...but the responsibility is totally theirs at the VERY moment Bush declared it was.

in the first place you ignore LOCAL PROBLEMS OR OVERSIGHTS that need fixing...

No son the declaration of a state of emergency does exactly that...Blanco declaring a state of emergency makes it a state problem and Bush's declaration trumps hers...which puts the Buck in the white house....too bad Bush was in California then.

It isn't Bush or the National Guard's responsibility to feed, house, clothe, and educate Americans -it's.

YES it is because BUSH declared it was...with the state of emergency...that is why FEMA stocks up on those very supplies....

...AMERICANS' RIGHT AND DUTY TO FEED, HOUSE, CLOTHE, AND EDUCATE THEMSELVES.

until they have lost the resources to do so...which states of emergency are specifically created to address. And when Bush declared one he assumed responsibility to do exactly THAT.

We aren't wards of the State.

except when the state takes control, I guess you have never been in one of those situations where the federal government takes control, and basically tells you where you can and cannot go, what time you can and cannot be on the streets...they can only do that with a state of emergency..which allows the president to suspend posse comitatus, and USE federal troops to keep order in the US.

Even making $5.15 an hour, if you prioritise, you can save enough in 1 year to have a bin of food, water, and shelter materials (called "tarps") to ride out a week without services (Boy Scouts do it every year - it's called "summer camp").

But boy scouts do not do that in the middle of a hurricane, they usually do it in a national or state park..and have a lot of OUTSIDE help from parents and sponsors...dishonest repug spin as usual.

Boy scouts do not do it on the left overs after they feed house and clothe a family on $5.15 an hour.

It's a matter of priorities and budgetting -

Right son...food...clothing...
educational requirements...housing..
medical expenses...and the money has run out long ago...but you will never admit that. And we have not gotten to survivor stocks yet.


don't spend $ on bling-bling or tennis shoes or smokes or X-boxes and wide-screen TVs...

Nice repug LIE there....most [poorer people might want them but do not have them except in YOUR delusional fantasies your tell each other so you can FEEL justified in attacking the victims of poverty which Katrina exposed....and destroys the myth that everything was rosey inside America. And now you clowns have to spin larger and larger lies and distortions to reset the repug mantras for November.

Especially if you live in a city below sea-level!

Which the federal government is responsible for maintaining the levees. The majority of New Orleans is NOT actually below sea level actually...it is below Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi at that point....but that is because the levees allow that. In fact the actions of the corps made the situation worse because the levees were built to hold the water where they needed it for Ocean shipping to reach the docks...but the corps FAILED to make sure the levees were built to standard.

And if the DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT RAN NEW ORLEANS KNEW SO MANY "poor" weren't prepared for flooding

The city government relied on the message Georgie boy sent them in that video conference when Bush claimed the FULL force of the federal government was going to be brought to bear. Too bad he left out not till after this side trip to California. And the Gov. of Louisiana had NO national guard to respond with since the FEDERAL government took then to IRAQ...and FAILED to replace them in the state of emergency Bush declared....

then why didn't they spend their billions of Hollywood, George Soros and DNC money

SINCE it is a FEDERAL responsibility.. asking the democrats private money to be spent first shows how partition YOU are...not honest enough to admit BUSH had assumed control(like he LOVES to do) with out actually doing anything about it.

SPIN it ALL you WANT....BUSH took over and assumed primary control in the Hurricane two days before it hit...and fell FLAT on his ASS in performance of his DUTY.

(to say nothing of TAX REVENUE FROM THE OIL AND PORT INDUSTRIES) ON EMERGENCY PREPARDNESS AND EVAC?

Most of that money is used for normal city operations....and that is the reason Congress saw fit to create FEMA..to fill the large gap between what is usually available in emergencies at the local level...and what they NEED

THE DEMOCRATS RUN NEW ORLEANS - IT'S THEIR PEOPLE....THEY CONTROL LOCAL AND STATE TAXES... IF THEY DIDN'T SPEND THE MONEY WISELY THEN IT'S THEIR OWN DAMN FAULT.

NO son yell all you want...BUSH took control and he assumed responsibility but failed to follow through as usual.

FEMA was not designed to be "a first responder" or "only responder" agency. It's designed to MANAGE the efforts of local, state and federal agencies.... Katrina's mess was the EFFECT OF ZERO LOCAL AND STATE PLANNING, and IMMEDIATE democratic blame-games and lies.

It's not the Army Corps that stymied the levies...

Right it was the repugs in congress who FAILEED to allocate the funds...the corps failed to enforce standards in the levee construction...IT was and still is their responsibility. NOT the state or city...

New Orleans and the State of Louisiana was in charge of billions of dollars of THEIR OWN MONEY -

But the corps is a federal agency so the locals have not reason to fund an agency which should be funded by the federal government to make sure the international trade that occurs in the ports of New Orleans and Baton Rouge remains open and the barges that ply the Mississippi river and it's tributaries remain open for all the jobs in all the states that use that system do not disappear. It is and will always be a federal responsibility....so get over that son.....your STUPID repug spin ignores the real fact why the feds took over early in the 20th century.


if they wanted bigger dikes and better emergency backup systems - they had 40 years to build them and pay for them.

Can't son the corps MUST approve all designs and basically fund them...it is a federal job simple as that deal with the fact in the haste to cut the budget the repugs cut something that bit them RTEAL bad in the ass.

It wasn't Bush's or FEMA's fault t that 200 New Orleans' Police went AWOL -

No son for once your right it was each individuals fault for not being where they should have been....

Just like Bush was AWOL and chertoff was looking at bird flu instead of taking Charge of Homeland Insecurity when the largest natural disaster in the nations history took place.

left the job and started looting...

A non proven assertion. Only a few NO police officers were found looting...a lot more were with their evacuated families.

if they left to "take care of their families" then you have to ask why their families weren't evacuated

They were evacuated and they found the police in Baton Rouge..Lafayette..Alexandria, among other places with their families.

- and why the Police didn't have backup plans for flooding....

Back up plans for flooding usually do not include a category 4 hurricane as the primary cause for the flooding...and any plans would include a quick response by the state national guard, not it being 9000 miles away in Iraq...and a quick response from FEMA and DOD to fill in security transportation and medical needs created as a result of the disaster....you must have never actually worked any contingency planning like this.

Bush didn't VETO a single spending bill in Congress -

Right son because he never asked for the money...they white house cut the request before they sent it to congress...and the repugs in congress voted down the amendment to replace the money..so it NEVER appeared in the final bill.


everyone ELSE's pork has been approved -

Like the bridge to NOWHERE..and all the other repug gifts to their benefactors ...yes THEY got what they wanted...not what the people of New Orleans needed.

so why didn't the democratic congresscritters

You do really have HATE in your heart for democrats don't you BOY?

earmark funds for this instead of Casino's and Mardi Gras?

well son they tried...including Repug Sen Vitter...but the majority of repugs voter them down...and spent the money giving oil companies tax cuts, and federal grants...instead of making sure a major American city was protected by the levees they were ultimately responsible to FUND.

How would Bush's immediate arrival on the scene to bite his lip like Clinton and "feel your pain" have SOLVED ANY PROBLEM????

SIMPLE son he could have gotten Chertoff off his ass in Atlanta Georgia...and been able the get DOD rolling that day instead of 3 days later....most federal employees move rather quick when the BIG BOSS is looking over their shoulder...also he could have cut through mountains of red tape the FGEMA bureaucrats that his minions had hired created in FEMA when they folded it into Homeland Insecurity.

Again you want style over substance.

No son that was WHAT bush was doing in California...all style...no substance.


Was he supposed to strike up a pose and act tough?

No son..get those who report to him to do their JOBS..and quickly untangle the problems at the top...which would have gotten Chertoff and Dumsfeld to act..and those below them to begin solving the problems quickly not 4 days later.

Run around and cry and blame someone like Nagan?

Nagan failed in some ways...but he did not have FEMA or DOD at his disposal..and did not go to California for a two day vacation....and did not send the Louisiana National Guard to Iraq and fail to replace them as Katrina bore down on New Orleans. and it was not Nagan but BUSH who declared the State of Emergency thus taking responsibility for the response to the disaster.

You people continue to blame Bush

Since he declared the disaster as a federal action...his actions warrant critique, which he FAILS quite badly

as though your mayor and governor had their acts together -

Not together son...but they were relying on BUSH to keep his word he gaver both of them...right before he went ON leave to a birthday party, local fair...and repug fundraiser.

Not the actions of the commander in chief in the worst national disaster in the nations history I would prefer to see.

as if YOUR party that ran the show was perfect and doesn't need fixing...

No son it was the federal government that assumed control but failed to follow thru. They took control thus they were supposed to "run the show"

which is why you'll NOT fix your own problems and instead glom on to Bush as though he's solely responsible for YOUR failure.

Not "MY" failure..as I am not in the government and have not been in uniform since the early 90's...and as for fixing problems...the repugs have a dismal track record there also

9-11 little real action taken to secure the country, but they did make FEMA dysfunctional as Katrina showed in spades.

They attacked Afghanistan to get Osama...well failure is kind of that result of that...Osama is still free.

They attempted to Blame Iraq for 9-11 as a pretext to invade...which is another fiasco, they have still failed to correct.

New Orleans is still a mess even though Bush promised to do everything necessary to aid in the clean up.

FEMA is still Broke...1 year after its dismal failure in the Katrina disaster.

there are many more but I think you get the point.
 

Scheesh you people ARE DENSE.

You keep going back to excusing the locals for their piss poor performance by claiming that once the flood hit, it was too late for them to react.

Bingo!!!!!!!!! Exactly! It was their JOB to prepare to save their people BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON.

Think Blanco woke up that morning and suddenly discovered Bush had stole her State Guard from her in the night? Or Nagan didn't know his evac plan might need tweaking?

DOD couldn't move the fleet into the path of the Hurricane - so of course the ships were kept back from the Gulf. Given the devastation to major roads INTO the city, and miles of swamp surrounding NO there wasn't a whole lot of real estate for FEMA to pre-position relief supplies that wouldn't have been in the 'cane's path.... all the MORE REASON FOR LOCALS AND STATE OFFICIALS TO HAVE THEIR ACTS TOGETHER.

Do you REALLY BELIEVE it's Bush or FEMA's job to insure private Hospitals stockpile enough fuel for 1 week and keep the generators high off the ground? Or that declaring a federal emergency instantly beams fed'agents into places where rational people would PRESUME have their act together - like major hospitals???

It's the RESPONSIBILITY OF LOCALS TO THINK AHEAD AND PREPARE FOR DISASTERS AND THEIR RECOVERY... FEMA IS A MANAGERIAL - NOT FIRST RESPONDER AGENCY.

Go read the statutes for federal emergencies... if you can.

Nowhere does it say locals and state officers stand aside while federal agents helicopter in to replace them. Federal involvement PRESUMES LOCALS ARE WORKING AND HAVE A PLAN PREVIOUSLY PREPARED AND COORDINATED WITH THEIR STATE EMERGENCY CREWS.

You excuse the stupid idea of telling the bus drivers and Police to evac their families (why not use their buses???? fill a forth of the bus with your family and the rest with needy poor...) A DAY BEFORE the hurricane rather than 2-3 days before....

You excuse the local cops for going awol and leaving their posts.... you excuse the stupidity of the local hospital for not stockpiling enough diesel.... you excuse the "poor" for not thinking ahead in the week before the Hurricane hit to fill up water bottles and use ubiquitous plastic bags to preserve food....

You think poor people can't afford a $5 tarp from Walmart? They had city water until the flood hit - why didn't they fill up all available pots, pans, and bottles in preparation?

It doesn't cost a fortune for a family to prepare a plastic bin of hurricane supplies needed to sustain them for 1 week.... but it DOES REQUIRE EDUCATION - SOMETHING DEMOCRATS PRIDE THEMSELVES IN, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT - ANOTHER THING DEMOCRATS PRIDE THEMSELVES WITH... well, here you go - you have a "Chocolate" city, run by blacks, all of whom are democrats and they drop the ball - but rather than accept responsibility for failures on their watch you and they grasp at straws to put all the blame on Bush.

Oh right, blame Bush for the feds for not spoon-feeding the people now - well hey, they're YOUR FELLOW DEMOCRATS - IF THEY WEREN'T TAUGHT HOW TO FEED AND TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES IN A CITY BELOW SEA LEVEL IT'S THE DNC'S FAULT.

After all, they've been brainwashed to not trust Bush or the Feds. They'd only listen to you and by all appearances neither Nagan nor Blanco - both Democrats were very good leaders of their own people.

I know a heck of a lot more about disaster relief and poverty and helping the poor than you do btw.
 

It's the school bus driver's fault now?

THE BUS DRIVERS FLED THE CITY BECAUSE THERE WAS A LEVEL 5 HURRICANE COMING DUMBASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus, you neocons are stupid.

A million people either left or were evacuated. People stayed behind, but when the levee broke and people were drowning Bush played guitar and continued fundraising.

Had Katrina ravaged Kennebunkport, Maine, Bush would have been on it like flies on shit because that town is mostly white.
 

Lydia is back! Welcome back to reality...oh wait....now that's not good because reality in America right now is stressful. Welcome back to your friends Lydia! :-)

Larry & Clif, great responses to the idiotic neocons here on my blog.

Clif, you made a great point. Once Katrina became a Federal Disaster......it was in Bush's hands and that was early on too.

Great point!!!
 

Clif...thanks for your rebuttals to crazy Anon. But with the polarization created by the neocons, he's probably a lost cause. But your informed and well documented answers are very much appreciated.